Wang Yuan plagiarism plaintiffs recording of a conversation with Han Huiming extract

 Extract of the plaintiff and the recording of a conversation
Han Huiming talk time; July 28, 2006 PM 16:15 mm19: 15
conversation Location: Notting Hill coffee bar
talk Background: July 15, 2006, the plaintiff Han Huiming encounters in the streets, chatted for a while standing at the time, South Korea to the plaintiff about his understanding of some things, so that the plaintiff had participated in the first defendant was aware of Han Huiming Wang Yuan plagiarism fact that the plaintiff manuscript on July 28 .2006 On the afternoon of Korea suddenly call about the plaintiff, the plaintiff immediately told his lawyer Li Jian, asked her to co-appointment. but was unable to attend the Bar Li Jian, so she asked the plaintiff to the recording of a conversation so that she could hear the true circumstances of the case The analysis and understanding.
Han Huiming Tel:
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Liu】 【busy what?
【Korean】 do another film, the public sector's. private horrible, private sector is full of traps, then I more cooperation with the public.
】 【Liu you finally come to understand?
【Korean】 private trap too much, suffer too much. And here we levy penalty mechanism Yeah, nothing about sound.
【】 The Liu.
【Korean】 you negotiate with him, tell him you consume, you can not afford to consume.
Liu】 【Yeah, like Wang Yuan this is the unbridled , arbitrary and is, that is fraud.
【Korean】 rob.
Liu】 【Yes, looting, you said the word accurate. but I do not see how the original book, I bought on the back to go back hh has a bar, turned his eyes to throw in there.'ve heard that you changed, then rolled back to the turn. We provide a morning at home, ye did not even wrong to change Yeah, mistake Then go up, the day the newspaper, the altogether on so few lines, I looked to see out.
【Korean】 how I did not change.
】 【Liu also changed a lot, write the past to the rear. Anyway, still used to write words hh
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Liu】 【then I was quite sorry for you, I said yo, how old and how to change that Korean thing .
【Korean】 did not move.
Liu】 【very clean book, and I said how such a thing has become, it is no wonder that Li Chunping unhappy.
【Korean】 did not move, I Basically, not how to move.
Liu】 【how did you move? which those who wrote ah?
【Korean】 written by another person.
Liu】 【but you he found a people?
【Korean】 He said let me find someone to come forward, then I found a person, behind the back hh hh did not talk about something good, even if the. then I thought some things have no meaning, because to have to do things a basic awareness of the basic things.
】 【Liu is. I am not saying that what I said we are all engaged in writing, wow, you change to change it, reform it, let me simply Intuit feel uncomfortable, and that the manuscript to read. I did not read several of them are listed, that is hh manuscript because I wrote it myself very clear I am sure, know what it is, then look hh
【Korean】 I let I read it again
a friend】 【Liu ah.
【Korean】 I let my friends read it again a. read later, he told me that after seeing you it is, people confused this is not very good for you, fine you, what did change. I said I do not quite understand.
Liu】 【Yes, but you did not know you. In fact, why did I not see that it is old South Korea, I was quite believe you, and skill. I think no matter how changed for you at least will not commit to a particular kind of bad mistakes. Then one day, listening to Chun-Ping Li said that, there are points do not believe, I reflected on that day We two words I am wondering is that you change, I say that the old Korean right not write such things, the result really in the inside.
【Korean】 ah, I did not move, basically did not move. Wang Yuan was said to me you a lot, he would not have much truth, to make nonsense nonsense, how to how to say in his favor.
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【Korean】 Yes. and then go wrong, including this book, I say no should Yeah, I said this is hh
Liu】 【What he knows is wrong? (understood as the book more out of the textual errors)
【Korean】 do not know, do not know how it was. Anyway, this thing hh So anyway, such as hh hh hh I hh, etc. So I am very involved in the limits a bit. most of the hh lot of things is not my handwriting. I am very involved in the limits a bit.
Liu】 【Yes, I think hh some of you that I certainly can see that the traces of that Fang Xie, is that you put the word transfer a child or what ever hh but some, including punctuation errors, I saw half of the stand it anymore, really . I saw some, a whole is a comma, not a basic punctuation, no. hh I said hey this day, you called me, untie me really confused, I said this old Korean writing? also Intuit hh I am an intuitive, although I have not seen you formally write these, but you said that book I have read that you said you wrote the first book of financial wisdom figures I've seen. and I think you to director will not be there to do a lot here hh hh primary and secondary students are the kind of error. to read less than a chapter.
【Korean】 over, behind me, I said how, he said, is the signature problem. He said you have to signed by the head of the Department, this and that. that for a long time. that the signature you have to head the Department, said that the hh for a long time, I did not 吭气.
he】 【Liu change is issued to you when you change the electronic version of draft is to give you a?
【Korean】 he had let me find someone, let me find someone. I'm looking for one. I'm looking for a friend. Then they said, nothing can be changed , and very well written Yeah. It so happened that that was a dinner and someone else, then that person does is not good stubble, he said I Guannameduo it, would you not this thing, took the first deposit to say. I hh this thing a look at this, what meaning I do.
Liu】 【he doing hh
【Korean】 I do own thing hh
】 【I said Liu hh I always thought you reform. really, I think so. I met last time either you, may we two met, said some of the thing hh
【Korean】 is the case, he was so, he is hh I say that is nothing to reform, change what? He said some Beijing-oriented, it is Beijing of the things to change. and then I get a chapter later, get a chapter later, after he said he said you That did not move Yeah. I said how to move it? hh he said I said you call it is not called rewrite rewrite. then I dismissed. withdrawal of this thing.
】 【Liu was not you reform will afford ? front hh
【Korean】 then I do not know.
Liu】 【front, the front may be changed to change. That did he want to first acknowledge you here? I read that he had written, so I You have been considered in the change to his surgeon.
【Korean】 him the things a lot of things, this thing, from the beginning to the back, he asked me a lot. I gave him a lot of things are is free to share hh him from the beginning, I told him, you do not put it into a bestseller, put it into a cultural book. I talked to him several times, is included in a talk we also there alone with him to talk about.
Liu】 【we in a time when you talked about several times, right?
【Korean】 hh we are talking about, after the one spoken to have said before that. He had never been seen wanted me to write that he was responsible for some men, some women you write, and he gave me three months, five dollars wages, is the concept. It is impossible.
】 【Liu are used to this approach. So I say he has no manuscript to show.
【Korean】 finished he told me that after you write is this, I would not ask.
】 【Liu No, he told the beginning, from the beginning when he asked me to say that our cooperation a completely personal cooperation. say, why can not influence on the back to give you money, because they control the TV money, he told me that China did not place a lot of money. He said, hh has two hands I was signing books, so not much to write. Later he repeated, and I said hh
【Korean】 me to hh I hh I went here before Yeah, not my intention to understand with others to contact him (people) think I am the person is still relatively realistic. then this person work through his way through and I learn from their experience a bit, actually, I have had an idea. I have a few of the heart, I know how to squeeze a scale of. Insincere a scale, and this is his (the king) the usual way of doing things. his behavior.
Liu】 【Yes, we all feel like listening to it listen to the story, such as Really?
【Korean】 ha ha hh (nod)
Liu】 【experience if you do not you think this is it true?
【Korean】 feel very strange.
】 【Liu So, of course, so that I may also hh hh we to eight times that day I was suddenly President, when I have not promised him to write it. you know. but he told me, you do not write too hh you, that When we do not even know. Let a sit, give me some advice. I said, let's not refuse to others on this, the people said. give some advice. actually is from that, and to eat, we eat lively, Jiuhan being, then answer it.
【Korean】 Anyway, if you do not have time to write so I wrote it, I will not, I will contract with a way to give you my How much to pay me how much royalties to say. I can get I get my first, and then royalties would not let a penny here, be sure to check this about.
Liu】 【how did you privately sue me ah. but then we two still unfamiliar with it.
【Korean】 I mentioned to you wake up, do not you think of it?
Liu】 【that I know you said that thing back with the Press children.
【Korean】 I said I said what I said was about the money okay, about what it means. Then you understood where the Press.
Liu】 【Yes, I thought it was royalty it.
【Korean】 Old Han you have to let publishers earn money. This allows people to earn to make people earn, I did not 吭气.
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Liu】 【I do not Did you know that this reform?
【Korean】 (shaking his head) really is not. you say these are not, you're all not.
】 【Liu is not it? you change the where ah?
【Korean】 I'll move a little on the plate.
Liu】 【I can see that turned over rewriting the whole front part of the piece of children.
【Korean】 in front of a moving little.
Liu】 【I said, hey, so how can such a change? Anyway, I really wanted to write a essay that you're stealing to plagiarism, and your levels are a good editor if you can not. nothing short of a mm test had failed a test composition to that feeling.
【Korean】 not. before he wanted me to got it, then, is get hold of the contract. I do not want to get, you find someone that I get. Later, the contract has a special mm particularly bizarre, there is one. said that if the change was not satisfied with all the money should be returned to him.
Liu】 【back all the money to him?
【Korean】 hey, all money returned to him. Well, this one's better if you change are not satisfied I can say. I say not so, and can not do it. I say not do that. Then, I said can not you get, if you change the words you can find someone, come pay a deposit, how how. come to find someone he went to another.
Liu】 【he told you this is my manuscript Why?
【Korean】 I am looking for someone do not know. He told me (that is the plaintiff's manuscript). I said it did not need to change, you change what, fine. Then he said something and the main reason is that the signature causes. is When signed, that is, when you have to say that the Department signed before him, and he told you ahead Xie Gaozi clear to you when he was finishing some text you do Yeah, and that the money given to you the.
Liu】 【I did not get a penny, this is the first;
【Korean】 I absolutely believe what you say, I absolutely believe what you say.
Liu】 【You can not I believe he gave me the money must be had, he certainly must have, is that the cost of (doing signature posture). then, but he realized he was so changed, so if he let you change a copyright problem?, br> 【Korean】 while ago, before the period is to allow me to find someone. to find someone, he said quite simply, is to adapt, change took something and changed. and then someone is getting the money to get me to eat hh deposit. and then One to change, he said: withdrawal came. I have other thing to withdraw came.
】 【Liu about how long? When?
【Korean】 May it.
Liu】 【May? that very fast, in June he had a book.
【Korean】 behind him, how he get back, I do not know.
Liu】 【final chapters on the basics did not change, that is, Full name of a replacement on the whole go up. There are many chapters did not even change.
【Korean】 April he would find me. April I do in Lanzhou. I just came back he looked me in Lanzhou to the central station to make a party.
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Liu】 【cheated you said, this is the first time I literature fraud. In the past some people that something is plagiarism, and the kind of plagiarism I very little to go to law or to pursue the matter, there are some special people who copied the manuscript reproduced.
【Korean】 not lie, rob and barely veiled to grab.
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Liu】 【Ann Gesha you name him? you gave me out of ideas, how to do?
【Korean】 I told him, I told him, I said people Ling teacher for this manuscript is also the wind hard a long time, were you got the money should be given on the people is lacking. he said, face the thing he said I will deal with, will do well.
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【Korean】 I think, I think he is not to change the nature of change was good or bad, is not here. He is the first masterpiece of the works into the world is not his, this is not real. But the things to see their ruin is quite painful. can be understood, but it is not real.
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Liu】 【hh
but you know very well that Korean】 【is careful the.
Liu】 【that you know very well that he would let you change my script, you know very well that this is not to take people's manuscripts belonging to? that you also should know that such copyrighted Well the problem.
【Korean】 No, this I do not intervene, I did not intervene.
Liu】 【Oh.
【Korean】 I am not involved in this thing, I am not involved in this thing.
Liu】 【Later he is to give you money or give that person money?
【Korean】 hh come I did not come to meet them, I have not met them, I did not let them meet. later Who found I do not know.
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【Korean】 He may have had candidates, said the following about a few, I do not know who. first get hh repentance, confession and then get another official, how a confession, repentance and then get another point of view, and then he said that I had a name, this society up my trouble, my volume, my first out of the Liu】 【confession hh
I think he really a name, and that if he repented of his own to the next one to write a confession that he is not on the What.
【Korean】 I heard the words, there is feeling sad, very disdain. but hh
】 【Liu finished the book out after he told you that?
【Korean】 he told me to remark, when this confession that I quite contempt. and then go despise despise it, I can not show it. because I think there is always cause and effect. is unjust is doomed to destruction
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【Korean】 I Li Chunping think you look carefully, he look carefully at the news conference, wondering what he's between the lines. and then you own the situation, and now this thing, including books, you can cut from this point of view. Your book is an objective is very elegant things, and his access to, can seek support by Li Chunping.
Liu】 【Korean】 【O hh
Li Chunping is in fact the most important figures.
【 ],[He did some of the manuscript,
【Korean】 you find Chun-Ping Li Liu is hh
】 【This means that you do not let me go to Chun-Ping Li, is not it mean?
【Korean】 not, to find Chun-Ping Li, Li Chunping give you this book to prove that on the line. because he had seen the original manuscript Chun-Ping Li, the original proof of your manuscript. Now he is not satisfied with these manuscripts prove that this is something that he later changed . Then you find a channel to issue the book to go.
Liu】 【I still have not hh, really do not want to, so I like to listen to you today to help me. You look at me than you it, but because you are in Beijing battles always such years, as you say we are inside the unit, so could you people doing things I have not much experience. So I want to hear that your experience I do, indeed, how I did not thought about how I have not thought about how to do this. I was simply too busy to think, the children had just finished the test, until recently I have been waiting for notice in July . I smoked have recently realistic, because the kids are all down notice.
【Korean】 fact, I think the key lies in Li Chunping there. In fact this book is not the key point is who changed Yeah, but is that it is changed to.
Liu】 【I know,
【Korean】 key to what is it? Li Chunping read the original book, but also know the process, and he is now on the rehabilitation of the hh he a judge, and his judgments, by which you share something back to the momentum.
Liu】 【I know, you say, I let Li Chunping prove, I think that this book, now you out of the book. So I feel satisfied with this book, is not it mean?
【Korean】 This is a drastic one approach, the most fiercely.
】 【Liu also, it is in.
【Korean】 I have hesitated a long time is not for you out of this move. This is a drastic approach. actually the most powerful of this approach. Because the book critical of plagiarism, as to say that plagiarism methods, which simply without proof. This need not prove that, I found him, I wrote him a number, which do not have to prove to you that he is a fake. a discerning eye to see that they are two (manuscript) of the relationship. you how perpetrating a fraud. You change there, is spoiled or changed into a classic, it is not important, is to prove that the book is plagiarism hh
Liu】 【Yes, as you say change is world famous plagiarism is, in essence, plagiarism.
【Korean】 pairs (change there) does not matter. In fact, who are not stupid, for instance, is the famous Dream of Red Mansions, China's greatest novel, but the Red Chamber by Golden Lotus effect is obvious, is not it, not to mention that thing was so obvious you.
】 【Liu me now, tell you the truth, I did not call no Chun-Ping Li Chun-Ping Li's EmMAIL, had never with his Korean】 【hh
you do not know their house?
Liu】 【I know his office.
【Korean】'll be OK, knowing that his office is not easier to handle.
【 ],[a comparison, and then give him the hh
Liu】 【so I was feeling that day, really, I saw that press conference I was very surprised on their own.
【Korean】 your example, you For example, that I was I was, strictly speaking, in fact, this move should not be out of the ah, but I think a bit hard on the conscience. For example you take the manuscript and this manuscript, you say change is good or bad is not that my original you Yes, I think this book speaks ill of you. Why, one, two, three results hh hh hh you say if from this point on the Li Chunping can tend to you.
】 【Liu I, generally it hh
【Korean】 Wang yuan this thing, this thing done, too much, this is not a man do. get him to play 10 hh
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Liu】 【last time you I finished with, said Wang Yuan's that fooled you, I have been back home is, I can not figure out, his face so deceived you, let you shop and go to the thing and knows it is to change people the manuscript, the results you go? I have been thought through.
【Korean】 I operate this thing, let me work. let me when he said a lot of operational reasons. because I am both of you the details of cooperation I do not know, contradictions do not understand, he gave me about some things. He said he is looking for you first talk to you, give you the money you give me the actual hh that and then that money does not matter hh. Then Let me, finding people. and then I find people do not feel right, does not feel right up to withdrawal, and quickly dismissed.
】 【Liu is not the last time you said that he also gives you a little money up, change the manuscript .
【Korean】, etc. So, I did not hh hh tantamount to the guy.
Liu】 【Yeah, people got?
【Korean】 people that staff did not do a good job, had said What changed, in fact, not changed, then hh, etc. So I made a thankless thing on both sides.
Liu】 【equal to that person and he has not seen?
【Korean】 The 对.
【】 Liu did not let that person you meet him, only the manuscript to the man?
【Korean】 Yes, yes, people say that after reading the manuscript is very good, you still want me to change it? < br> Liu】 【man doing it? is writing for the?
【Korean】 Military Writer, Military Writer.
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【Korean】 So I think a man and women to consider things may be different. I believe that to me or I put up, I want to move hit his three-inch hh
Liu】 【If you, What would you court?
【Korean】 play case, this case is very involved energy, what is the purpose of litigation you? not that your argument What should also. If you still have to be a fair if hh
Liu】 【Yes, definitely have to repay a statement. < br> 【Korean】 Yes, but also a saying, do not want other issues to a direct question the results. because the mm is not important to you this book, but his conduct has hurt you, you did mm what I said right? of this kind of thing Tingduo hh and you want to know what the result is Yes, you can let him give you money. The holding him to you, because China is now the law hh
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【Korean】 So, I think, I think, you start to find the money on, start with the money to get it back on.
】 【Liu you mean I find him? he will not. like you say he So sharp.
【Korean】 not, start looking for money, there are many on the way, I want to get back is my reward, if not, if they are not paid, how I would do with his very detailed That kind of thing, then if he still hh then you take the next step.
Liu】 【But you knew that the old South Korea, what is this thing called the law?
【Korean】 before resorting to force is tantamount to ah. < br> Liu】 【call this a legal blackmail. know. I do not know the law understand (how many).
【Korean】 that I do not understand, how is it blackmail?
【Liu 】 law is such that I raised with you as long as a sum of money, and then say you do not give me the money if I how and how, this is called blackmail. This is the definition.
【Korean】 not, but His definition is that it is blackmail. but I was back Yes I deserve a reward.
Liu】 【Yes, and units for example, I dispute the hh
【Korean】 not, your book I wrote, more than 20 million words, I created my own cost back how it is called blackmail?
Liu】 【I'm not writing fees. how do I call work? you are not hired me to create Members, this is what hh
【Korean】 not know the word I said and see how that appropriate, how to say the most close to your situation.
Liu】 【because it was the hh
【Korea 】 In fact, I understand that this is not just a cost of creation, he violated your copyright, in fact. I do not know how the contract you signed.
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Liu】 【hh but sometimes you think I am old, you say this is true? we go out mm, such as the old Han you have told me so much, I feel that this is true?
【Korean】 If you do not experience these things, I tell you, you may not believe, right?
Liu】 【Yes.
【Korean】 may not believe you.
Liu】 【Yes, if the Without this experience, probably like you said, why do you remind me or do not have that sense of mm. because truly I tell you, like us, grew up in an intellectual family grew up, never say, in addition to culture Revolution may have not seen this, is the person to do so. I always incredible, that is, that this right, too much bile. I think he'll come when you write, re-write, I do not view . is like you said, would rather do this thing, do not write, no problem. Then, look now, this structure, paragraphs, it is not moving to the former head structure to the structure of all later structures, chapter even if you said I move that this chapter which are not.
【Korean】 enough so as infringement, and in accordance with the law books that must
】 【Liu Yes.
【Korean】 has infringed.
】 【Liu was sure that this is not hh
【Korean】 Look Quanliquanwai, GJM that plagiarism, plagiarism GJM way I want to be very high, br> Liu】 【Yes, but people still on it.
【Korean】 right, so this is not a minor issue can not be resolved. you either are looking for a peaceful, settlement purposes. purpose is clear: back their losses. or what is my loss, I have ignored, is selling the children to buy the steamer, do not fight children Zhengkou Qi. the focus to your own. So I said, one is this way, the other is hh I spoke very understand.
Liu】 【ah, I know you said that. because I tell the truth, said this month ah hh
【Korean】 because you can see Chun-Ping Li, and something with the global view, then, in the interview which he was understanding of Wang Yuan, and for your understanding, not the same, certainly not the same. because you give people a kind of literary ambience, culture, books of things, but also that species is very delicate thing, what kind of euphemism, or the kind of things, the nature of things hh he could feel it. people are feeling, he will have feelings, he will feel.
【Liu 】 I actually should be hh
【Korean】 then you can say: This book is already a bestseller, if unchecked, to you who this person is to fight hh Why fight for a reputation. It has is a lot of things as a model for generations. then this book may also reprint, you can not discredit you allowed such a thing. You can compare the two most clearly compared to you, those things are good, those who slander or yellow, or creating a bad impact. I mean what is it original, this is a drastic push approach.
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】 【Liu for him, just know your first was a woman; second, he knows I usually do not fight, what if a bit small I always take a step back, because from childhood by the influence of this culture thing; the third effort he knew I did not, he usually also understand that I am her mother of cancer, hey, you son of the college entrance examination, or how anxious he was to catch fire, fire, a book at this time. So Haiyan Wu told me that he was anxious to have to give the fire the fire on June 10 out. so I do not understand why, you want to change your manuscript to him in May when it?
【Korean】 May it is.
】 【Liu, right?
【Korean】 me he is looking for four months behind I think this thing a bit wrong, then how come he do not know who to turn to.
】 【Liu said that so hasty, if you think about this time mm, Wu Haiyan look at this read the manuscript for two months,
【Korean】 Wu Haiyan, who is?
Liu】 【Zebian.
【Korean】 Oh.
】 【Liu looked for two months, she was seriously to change, inside a typo ah, what mm has not changed or clean. because I am typing clerical error rate more that five strokes. And I think there is a computer, for example, I hit will be a I generally finished on the special tired, tired of their not particularly like to watch, I said you gave me, put a few special places that are easy to tell her the wrong.
【Korean】 I was all remind you, that day I said to write all day light where? light to climb on the computer can not. Then you said you almost six hours a day writing. At that time I told you, the money was on a good thing. you Press this thing into something wrong, that publishers are not run. because I can only say this step. because I do not understand your ways, he told me to write you a month to several thousand dollars, is one such.
Liu】 【it because after all, lie is a lie, you said you gave me money, you give a proof of the total.
【Korean】 He must also hate what I hate like, I hate what he hates to children, he said many times that let me write to him, I would not on this child.
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Li Chunping this thing, I really do not know is so a pool of troubled waters. If you did not hit me that day, this thing would pass. In fact, I had wanted to give you a call, but do not know how, but also not say so
Liu】 【I just saw this book, when did not look. then bought a book, they said Acknowledgement you, I looked at the postscript, the first is what you see is the name. Then, looking through the front mm
【Korean】 financial wisdom of his people, he put all the people of the Ming Hsieh Ming Hsieh, and then, he may, he is not this a little conscience? because Here he helped me a lot of busy, because the billion of all things, fame and fortune he is not give up. and he is afraid of people know that I have something hh
Liu】 【fact, because to do this book, but later had little cracks in the inside. What rift? just written the first draft of my time, publishers in particular satisfaction, he let me hard, I'm going some place that I can not change your mind can not proceed to write, this is one of the . As for the second, probably over the eleven, my child was sick,
【Korean】 to move are some of his son, he would allow you to change, nothing can be changed to have to be changed, finally you quit, even if his manuscript. I once had a script, I say you do not tell me how to change it, I said why do you not tell me how to change the place hh
Liu】 【Yes, but then I also angry. I said: Wang Yuan I tell you, since it is cooperation, I am not your editor, how to change it to how you make change? This change was to change it up, I'm the main author is.
【Korean】 his will achieve this goal, so you changed to endure the trouble to give up.
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【Korean】 You have to remember this, that you're looking for Li Chunping two points, he did not care much, he has more money do not care about money, he is the reputation, the reputation of before and after death. This book has given you in his lifetime adverse effects, entry point, this is a starting point. The second , entry point is a process. should insist on quality and elegance, this book of the many. and then you give another example, the original and now the things that make him to identify. that they do not know if you want to appreciation of the arts to find a person, or who knows ...